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Go ahead, get all of the Lonely Boy jokes out of your system.
Joe quickly graduates from cyber-stalking to following Becks every move across New York.
Thanks, Penn!Yeah, I know.
Its a strange role!
I have a conflicting relationship with it.
Theres no way around it Joes not a great person.
They were so numerous that its hard to outline them all in one conversation.
Its not this wildly irresponsible, escapist fantasy at the perfectly wrong time.
We dont want to reward Joe more than how hes already being rewarded.
The bottom line through all of this was that I wasnt sure about anything.
I put my trust in a lot of these people.
They were all integral in helping me jump aboard the train.
Im really trying to be open about it.
How does one prepare for such a role?
Were you ever tempted to do such a thing?Wow, thats commitment.
Im not that kind of actor, and maybe that shows in my performance.
To me, it was far more of a shapeless psychological preparation.
One great difference between Dexter and Joe is that Joe isnt conscious of what hes doing.
Hes not conscious of his own alien-ness and his humanity.
To me, a conversation I hope it starts is,What is it about the show thats compelling?
Why am I watching it?
Am I enjoying it?
Am I agreeing with Joe?
Because Joe shouldnt be allowed to behave the way he does.
But only the viewer can decide.
Yes, we madeYou, so were culpable as well.
With the blind spots we have, I hope were held to some sort of accountability for it.
I want people to point out those things.
So Im prepared for that as well as I can be.
All of this to me is a bit like a Pandoras box.
All of this is relevant, but how relevant will it be while watching it?
Im curious where most people fall in that spectrum.
Maybe even less monitoring and more participating.
Heres the thing I dont like Joe.
I dont like the guy.
It took every ounce of my capacity to do my job.
Im going to continue to rely on those women.
Because I feel a certain amount of detachment from the character because of my dislike of him.
I dont feel like Joe.
Im not going to take a stab at defend Joe, clearly.
Even though you dislike Joe, do you see any redeeming qualities about him?Oh sure, absolutely.
I dont believe that pure evil exists, personally.
I definitely was able to find him one humane and human quality.
All you need is one fragment of something pure, so I picked and became fixated on his curiosity.
At some point, someone will receive some kind of miseducation that they cant escape.
I think Joe is one of these people.
Im not apologizing for him or anyone like him, of course.
Thats one thing I dont want to do.
Obviously, Joe is the extreme and the exception.
How afraid should we be of Joe?
Transforming a bookstore basement into a prison cell is next-level crazy.You should be afraid of him.
Dont you think there are flashes of that?
Oh, absolutely.There are points where you see even more of that to understand him better.
You see the other darker moments of the palette, too.
The pilot is so fast, and the route becomes more circuitous and scenic and doesnt turn back.
So should we be afraid of Joe?
But he cant sustain that kind of fear.
In the third and fourth episode, it changes.
He initiates a relationship with her and they fall in love.
There are points where youre allowed to forget everything hes done and you might actually want them together.
The fear is never one-dimensional.
For some fans, itll be easy to compare the technological prowess of Joe with Dan Humphrey.
Its not my job to distinguish what people think.
Im not so concerned about that as I used to be.
Maybe Im naive there.
We love to enjoy it and we love to watch people ultimately being abused.
Its a strong thing to say, but theres a dimension to that in every drama.
It casts a fluorescent light on it, and you realize its kind of strange.
I wasnt connecting those dots back then, but now I am, and I like that.
c’mon, you must share what this GIF is.I meant in the literal sense!
Okay, I cant remember the episode or context around why he was doing this.
I remember everything about the moment, but nothing about the story.
In the moment, the crew was trying to get me to laugh and look up and throw in.
I was laughing to myself and rolling my eyes.
But the youths love it.
All they need is one moment!
