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If youre 7 years old and someone is stroking your penis, it feels good.

Thats one of the reasons its so confusing for children.

Both men explain why they hid their accusations

I was afraid of being caught.

It was on the news 24/7, Safechuck said about not testifying on Jacksons behalf in the 2005 trial.

It was too much to handle.

When I said no [to testifying], I wasnt trying to do the right thing.

I was just afraid.

That was all that existed in my mind.

The question was,Could I do something good with this bad?

I want to get on the stand again, because now Im able to tell the truth.

Robsons mother, Joy, still hasnt watched any part of the documentary where he details the alleged abuses.

I wish she was further along in her capability, Robson said.

I havent even processed yet that shes heard it, Safechuck said.

I have a go at have sympathy for her because she was groomed.

Im not letting her off the hook.

You hate yourself, but you have no idea why, he said at one point.

That shadow is still there.

It just creeps me out.

Safechuck also said he still hasnt forgiven himself.

Its going to be a lifelong journey for me, he said.

This moment will end and I still have a lot of work to do.

Im helping myself so I can be better for my kids and my family, and thats the goal.

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