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Id been talking to my friends who were making shows, seeing what they were getting to do.

It felt like they seemed to be having more fun than anybody else.

The people making their shows seemed to have the creative freedom that you want.

I dont mean that I didnt have creative freedom at ABC: Id worked very hard to earn it.

Thats, by nature, what web link TV really is.

I dont have a problem with it being what it is.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, I was very successful at it, which means I was doing ita lot.

I didnt want to be hemmed in by any of those constraints.

You said you talked to some friends about the decision.

Who were your advisers?I talked to Jenji [Kohan, creator ofOrange Is the New Black].

I knew the kind of experience shed been having.

Her opinions were interesting and good.

She liked having audiences anticipate what came next.

Generations of people have gotten to know that show by binge-watching it.

Some people never saw it week-to-week until the last season when they caught up.

So to me, its six of one, a half-dozen of the other.

Its not a big deal.

That show also works very well if youre bingeing it.

Its not a thing I worry about in terms of how the storytelling works.

How do you want to make TV?[Laughs.]

Im not ready to talk about that part yet.

I had to ask!I know you did.

Have you met with some of the unscripted people there yet?Oh, yes.

Youve technically been at Netflix since late last summer.

That is an interesting question depending on the pace of things.

Its just a different pace.

Its a very different animal.

That feels strange to me.

I dont know about that.

How many people turned it off when, where, why, and how?

But it also has no function for me.

I cant do anything with it.

It has nothing to do with how I tell a story.

Do you think that grind really is as necessary as web connection execs like to say?

Couldnt they do more to change their business and production models?

They have a different model than everyone else does, which exists on advertising dollars.

They have a larger swath of the American people that theyre trying to attract.

They have a different programming model requiring them to be on 24-7.

Its just a very different world than whats going on at Netflix.

To me, it can almost feel like apples and oranges, and I respect it.

I respect what it is and what it does.

It feels like everybody considers it dead until its not.

Did you watch it?

I went through that!

I needed everything to be a lot lighter.

But for meDark, Black Mirror, Dear White People, Jessica Jones, The Crown, Mindhunter.

Ive watched a lot of it.

Do you want to make movies for Netflix, too?Maybe.

That could change tomorrow.

Three days later you’re able to quote me, Then she made a movie.

But it has been so great, so welcoming, and its so can-do over there.

But they are actually that way.