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I think an unintended consequence of that is they feel shameful about it.

They assume that if its secretive and were quiet about it, theres something wrong with it.
I wrote on our whiteboard,the Hormone Monster needs a mortal enemy, Goldberg recalled.
He was like, No, shame is not a monster, shame is a wizard, Goldberg said.

Because shame is clever and tricky and needles its way into you.
Thats how we got the idea of asking David to do it, and fortunately he said yes.
The writing staff nicknamed Thewlis the charm wizard, given how easy he was to work with.

Separate from the Shame Wizards look was figuring out how the character would actually behave.
Guilt is,I made a mistake, shame is,I am a mistake.
This was also kind of inspired by Brene Brown, Goldberg said.

We all have different reasons for feeling shame, but seem to manifest it in very similar ways.
We asked David, Would you be open to singing?
There was a time when a world without shame was like half of that episode, Goldberg said.
That kind of empathy and vulnerability is the way to combat it.
That ideas is the ethos ofBig Mouth as long as it comes with dick jokes.