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Im interested in characters that are desperate really desperate, he says.

I heard you brought theHomecomingpodcast to Sam Esmails attention.
Is that right?No, I didnt bring the podcast to his attention.
Far from it, no.
I am very late to things, so I got on the podcast bandwagon very late.
When I do get on something, I talk about it like I discovered it.
I was working with Sam at the time onMr.
Both ways, I listened to the whole thing and was blown away by it.
I came to work the next day and I was like, Anybody hear this podcast,Homecoming?
My mind was blown.
I couldnt believe the coincidence of that and I just asked him, Is David Schwimmer doing it?
And if hes not, can I do it?
But I did and he thought that was interesting, if unconventional.
It took a few months but I really, really, really wanted to play the role.
It ended up going my way, but it was pretty nail-biting there.
I dont remember the last time I really wanted a role like that.
I dont really look at roles like that.
Im interested in characters that are desperate really desperate.
The ambition is off the charts.
Obviously you listened to the podcast.
I could appreciate what David did.
David made choices that were good for David and I dont really think about it.
But Ive got a lot of experience playing things that other people have played.
I did a play a few years ago, [Glengarry Glen Ross], with Al Pacino.
My brain doesnt work that way.
Obviously its a dramatic role, but I felt a little more subtle comedy in what you were doing.
How much did you think about it from a comedic perspective, or were you just playing it straight?
Maybe it comes across as kind of funny because Colin is just so desperate.More the latter.
I think desperation is funny.
We all have things that we want really badly and our behavior adjusts accordingly.
Davids performance is really funny.
Were just different people.
If Julia was on camera, I would be there off camera on the phone.
That was really the only way to do it.
You wanted to hear the other actors voice.
Chemistry isnt just if you believe two people can like each other or be in love with each other.
Chemistry also can work in an antagonistic relationship, right?
I dont think that gets talked about as much.
I was seized by that.
I quite like that.
Those things are complicated, right?
Those arent cookie-cutter sort of situations, why people are attracted to each other.
Sometimes people are attracted to each other because they hate each other on some level.
What was it like shooting that scene?You mean the one where she makes me sign the paperwork?
Yeah, in that huge conference room.
Thats the headquarters for Geist, including that long-tabled conference room.
That was such a weird place and its empty now.
Its for rent or for lease or something.
It is a massive, massive space.
I think we are going to see a lot of her in the next season.
Dont quote me on that, but I think we are.
In that scene, shes just so fierce.
Direct and completely unemotional about it.
In the moment, he gets so caught off guard that he never asks for proof.
Im not sure that she ever met the boss at that point.
I think she tricked him.
I do, thats what I think.
But you dont actually know?I dont actually know.
You mentioned youd just gotten into podcasts.
Aside from the ones that youve worked on, which podcasts do you recommend to people?
I would like to play that guy inS-Town.
Thats one of the best things Ive ever heard.
I listen toThe Dailyevery single day.
I love Michael Barbaros voice, I love his questions.
And I love Marc Maron.
Thats about all I have time for, really.
Well, thats a lot.Thats not bad, right?The Dailyis automatic.
But yeah, Im glad I hooked into them.
I was late and its such an interesting form of entertainment.
Especially the scripted stuff if its done really right.