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Nobody has their talking points in order.
Its not like a tearful farewell.
But it isnt everThe End.
I dont even know as an actor on the show if its permanent.
But it is sad!
It should be sad!
As the actor who plays one of the characters, do you feel sad?
Do you find yourself wanting them to be together?
We put so much value on relationships we watch and have emotional investments with them.
Its kind of funny.
I think its a way for us to deal with, or not deal with, our own shit.Yeah.
For the most part, we can put relationships into categories even though everythings so complicated.
Its so much less cut-and-dry than that.
It doesnt fall into any pattern that exists on this show specifically.
What do you think of Joshs arc this season?White Josh or proper Josh?
Its fun because, all of a sudden, hes floundering, trying to find his footing.
He finds an unlikely friend in Nathaniel.
They both have parallel journeys because of his unrequited love for Rebecca.
The ridiculousness of it just dawned on me because I referred to him as White Josh.
I just feel like the self-important actor playing a character called White Josh!
I love the name!I do, too I love it!
Even just the name is flipping any sort of trope on its head.
Well, thats not the reason why, it was probably a terrible audition.
I think it was at least a year-and-a-half or maybe more.
It wasnt until then that Rachel called me out of the blue.
We had never met each other.
It was this very refreshing dynamic in a town thats all shrouded in mystery and self-importance.
She called and was like, Hey, we wrote a part for you!
Wanna come be on our show?
I was like, Yeah, hey stranger!
It feels like lucky timing, too.It was super-fortuitous.
I had always planned on going back.
I dont know what they would have done if I didnt do it.
I dont know if thered be a reason for White Josh without me!
But it was really fun.
We did a full striptease down to our skivvies.
They gave us spray tans for it and Id never had that before.
What was that like?Hilarious.
You get into a shower fully naked and she sprays your body for a while.
I guess thats very common!
I guess people are doing that all the time in this town!
I gotta say, it looked great!
And also, thats not what I lead with as a human.
But its been very circuitous, my happening to look this way.
Im not an obviously and only athletic person, I dont think.
But they cut all that out so I ended up having a much smaller and more specific part.
We got a lot of good white devils in that firm.
Its not helping anybody to just play into the narrative thats cozy and comfy.
This isnt a cozy and comfy time in American or world history.
Its a strange path were on here.
I dont come from any privilege or money.
Everyones very simple, blue-collar at best.
The reason I went on that long run is because that character shows this innocent complicity.
But by not acknowledging that truth, you are complicit in keeping that system in place.
Did doing that show help you recognize those things?
It sounds like you had a wokening.A little bit!
I was just sort of pretty well read and knew the climate and the terrain of the political system.
I never really had opinions about anything.
Im an average male who shouldnt be antagonized for that!
and I think this is true Im not racist!
I dont personally have racist feelings!
I dont have homophobic/sexist/misogynist feelings!
I am a good person!
(Im talking about it like I had this huge involvement, I was there only very infrequently.)
Just that sentence is, in and of itself, an admission of privilege.
And I was in the most welcoming, open-minded place on the planet!
Yeah, Im sure you’re able to!
But I dont think it does.I dont either!
And I dont think it costs me anything to admit that.
But I grew up in every way with no real barrier against my success.
There was never really an obstacle I had to overcome.
Its as if that discredits my work ethic and my demeanor and the way that I talk to people.
All I had to do was put those things together.
